LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 Comparison

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LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 Comparison Overview

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In this review, we will be comparing Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000, two laptops from LG and MSI. LG Gram Pro 17 was introduced to market in July 2024 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 was launched in January 2020. As you can see, Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 is 4 years older than Gram Pro 17. Let's see if this age difference between two laptops makes a big difference.

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Here is a brief look at the main features of LG Gram Pro 17 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 before getting into our more detailed comparison.

LG Gram Pro 17 Key Specs

Launched in July 2024
17.0" IPS LCD, 16:10 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core Ultra 5 125H
GPU: GeForce RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB
8GB Ram
379.4 x 265.4 x 12.9-14.6 mm (14.94 x 10.45 x 0.51-0.57 inches)
Weight: 1.29 kg (2.84 lbs)

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 Key Specs

Launched in January 2020
17.3" IPS LCD, 16:9 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H
GPU: Radeon RX 5500M 4GB
8GB Ram
397 x 260 x 23 mm (15.63 x 10.24 x 0.91 inches)
Weight: 2.24 kg (4.94 lbs)

Let's read on the following sections in order to better understand in detail how Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 compares and decide which one is better for you.

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Reasons to choose LG Gram Pro 17 over MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000

Weight	1.29 kg vs 2.24 kg	0.95 kg lighter
Screen-to-Body Ratio	~83.2% vs ~79.9%	Larger screen area ratio
Side Bezel Thickness	6.6 mm vs 7 mm	0.4 mm thinner bezels
Refresh Rate	144 Hz vs 120 Hz	Smoother media experience
Contrast Rate	1500:1 vs 1148:1	more pleasing colors
Screen PPI	178 ppi vs 127 ppi	More pixels per inch
Screen Resolution	2560 x 1600 pixels vs 1920 x 1080 pixels	Higher pixel count screen
DCI-P3 Color Gamut	99% vs 40.5%	Wider DCI-P3 Color Gamut
Max Brightness	400 nits vs 260 nits	Brighter Screen
Response Time	30 ms vs 35 ms	Faster Response screen
RAM Type	LPDDR5X vs DDR4	Faster RAM Type
RAM BUS	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)	Faster RAM
Dolby Atmos Speakers	Yes vs No	3D Surround Sound Support
Bluetooth	v5.3 vs v5.1	More advanced Bluetooth connectivity
Webcam Resolution	1920 x 1080 vs 1280 x 720	Higher Resolution Camera
USB-C Port Type	v4.0 vs v3.2	Faster USB-C connection
Thunderbolt	v4 vs No	Support audio, data, power and video all through one single port
HDMI Version	2.1 vs 2.0	Better HDMI connectivity
SD Card Reader	Yes vs No	Read & Write SD Cards with the built-in reader

Reasons to choose MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 over LG Gram Pro 17

Display Size	17.3 inches vs 17 inches	Larger Screen Estate
GPU Fabrication Process	7 nm vs 8 nm	Newer Generation GPU
GPU FLOPS	4.632 TFLOPS vs 4.3-7.1 TFLOPS	More RAM Options
Upgradable RAM	Yes vs No	Connect more device at the same time
Number of USB-A Ports	3x USB 3.2 vs 2x USB 3.2	Connects to the local network via Ethernet RJ45
Ethernet RJ45 Port	Yes vs No

Common Strengths of MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and LG Gram Pro 17

Screen Coating	Matte vs Matte	Less reflections on the screen
Fast Charging Support	Yes vs Yes	Charge the battery in a shorter time
RAM Type	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)	Fast RAM type
Upgradable Storage	Yes vs Yes	Option to increase the Storage size
SSD Type	NVMe vs NVMe	Faster Data Transfers
Wi-Fi Standard	v6E vs v6	Fast and Reliable Wi-Fi Connections
HDMI Output	1x HDMI 2.1 vs 1x HDMI 2.1	Connect to External Displays via HDMI cable
VGA Output	No vs No	Connect to External Displays via VGA cable
Numeric Pad	Yes vs Yes	Fast way to input numbers
Keyboard Backlight	Yes vs Yes	Easily see the keys under low light

Common Weaknesses of MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and LG Gram Pro 17

Touchscreen Capability	No vs No	No Touchscreen Capability
HDR Support	No vs No	No HDR Support

LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000: Physical Specs Comparison

In this section, we will be comparing the physical specifications and body features of the LG Gram Pro 17 and the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000.

Physical Specs
Weight	1.29 kg (2.84 lbs)	2.24 kg (4.94 lbs)
Surface Area	1007 cm2 (156.1 inches2)	1032 cm2 (160.1 inches2)
Screen to Surface Ratio	~83.2%	~79.9%
Side Bezel Thickness	~6.6 mm	~7 mm
Weight per Inch of Screen	0.08 kg/inch	0.13 kg/inch
	0.176 lbs/inch	0.286 lbs/inch
Colors	White, Black	Black

Comparison of the LG Gram Pro 17 and the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 External Dimensions

Weight

Gram Pro 17 weighs 1.29 kg (2.84 lbs), whereas the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 weighs 2.24 kg (4.94 lbs). There is a notable difference in weight between these two laptops. However, it's important to consider that comparing their weights directly may not provide a complete picture since they also have different display sizes.

Weight Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

LG Gram Pro 17 1.29 kg

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 2.24 kg

Min 1.29 kg

Average 2.74 kg

Max 4.23 kg

Thickness Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

LG Gram Pro 17 14.60 mm

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 23.00 mm

Min 8.60 mm

Average 24.26 mm

Max 38.00 mm

Another value that we use for comparing the weights of the laptops is the Weight per Inch of Screen, which is calculated by dividing the total weight of the model with its usable diagonal screen size. This value for the LG Gram Pro 17 is 0.08 kg/inch.In comparison, this value for the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 is 0.13 kg/inch.Here are some of the best performing laptops in this area:

Microsoft Surface Go 4: 0.05 kg/inch
LG Gram SuperSlim 15.6 2023: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus ProArt PZ13 HT5306: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus Zenbook A14 UX3407: 0.06 kg/inch
Dell Latitude 7330: 0.07 kg/inch
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano Gen 2: 0.07 kg/inch
LG Gram 14 2022: 0.07 kg/inch
LG Gram 14 2-in-1 2022: 0.07 kg/inch

LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000: Internals (CPU, GPU, RAM, Battery, SSD, etc.) Comparison

CPU Comparison

CPU Model	Intel Core Ultra 5 125H Intel Core Ultra 7 155H	AMD Ryzen 7 4800H
Base Frequency	1.2 GHz	2.9 GHz
Turbo Frequency	4.5 GHz	4.2 GHz
Number of Cores	Arc Graphics (7-	8
Number of Threads	18	16
L3 Cache	18 MB	8 MB
Integrated GPU	Arc Graphics (7-Cores)	Radeon Vega 7
CPU Fabrication Process	7 nm	7 nm
Cinebench 23 (Single)	1726	1255
Cinebench 23 (Multi)	14856	11236

Above you can see the CPU options and the CineBench and GeekBench test scores for both laptops, which gives an idea about what kind of performance difference you may experience between the LG Gram Pro 17 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000.

You may also read reviews of latest laptops with the same CPUs and compare them:

Laptops with: Intel Core Ultra 5 125H

Laptops with: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H

GPU Comparison

GPU Model	GeForce RTX 3050 Mobile 4GB	Radeon RX 5500M 4GB
Base Clock Frequency	1065 MHz	1375 MHz
Boost CLock Frequency	1343 MHz	1645 MHz
TGP (Total Graphics Power)	45 W	50 W
Nvidia Optimus	Yes
Type	Dedicated	Dedicated
FLOPS	5.501 TFLOPS	4.632 TFLOPS
Memory Size	4 GB	4 GB
Memory Type	GDDR6	GDDR6
Memory Bus	128 bit	128 bit
Memory Speed	1500 MHz 12 Gbps effective	~14 Gbps
Shading Units Cores	2048	1408
TMUs	64	88
ROPs	32	32

GPU is as critical as the CPU for graphic heavy applications and the table above gives a picture of how the two GPU compares. FLOPS is a measure of a GPU's performance based on the number of floating-point arithmetic calculations that the processor can perform within a second. LG Gram Pro 17 has a FLOPS value of 4.3-7.1 TFLOPS whereas the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 ' has a FLOPS value of 4.632 TFLOPS. If graphical performance of the laptop is important for your use type, the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 may be the better choice between these two setups.

RAM Comparison

RAM	8GB 16GB 32GB	8GB 16GB 32GB 64GB
Memory Bus	2x4 GB	1x8 GB
RAM Clock	7467 MHz	3200 MHz
RAM Type	LPDDR5X	DDR4
Upgradable	No	Yes
Memory Bus	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)	PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)

Both laptops, the Gram Pro 17 and the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000, come with similar RAM capacities of 8 GB, providing comparable performance in memory-intensive tasks.

LOCAL LLM Compatibility Evaluation

This quick guide shows what types of large language models (LLMs) each of these laptops could support, based on their respective hardware specifications. It's meant to help you compare their suitability for running AI models locally.

LLM Category	LG Gram Pro 17	MSI Bravo 17 2021 (Ryzen 5000)
Small Models(1-3B):Examples: Phi-2, Qwen-1.8B	✔ Run smoothly.	✔ Run smoothly.
Medium Models(7-8B):Examples: Mistral-7B, Qwen-7B	✖ Not supported.	✖ Not supported.
Large Models(13-30B):Examples: Mixtral, Qwen-14B	✖ Not supported.	✖ Not supported.
Extra-Large Models(65B+):Examples: LLaMA2-70B, Qwen1.5-72B	✖ Not supported on most systems. Requires high-end GPU or advanced setup.	✖ Not supported on most systems. Requires high-end GPU or advanced setup.

Note: Optimized (e.g., 4-bit) models may run on limited hardware. Performance depends on runtime and setup.

📌 MoE Models: Some models like Mixtral 8x7B and Qwen3-30B-A3B use a Mixture of Experts (MoE) design, activating only part of the model during inference. This means they can often run efficiently on laptops with 12–16 GB of VRAM when quantized.

BATTERY

BATTERY	77 Wh 90 Wh	51 Wh
Battery Type	Li-Ion	Li-Ion
Replaceable	No	No
Fast Charging	No	Yes
Charging Port Position	Left	Left
Charge Power	65 / 90 W	180 W
Cable Length	2 meters

Moreover, the Gram Pro 17 boasts a larger battery capacity of 77 Wh, offering extended usage time compared to the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000's51 Wh.

Battery Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

LG Gram Pro 17 77 Wh

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 51 Wh

Min 37.00 Wh

Average 76.88 Wh

Max 100.00 Wh

STORAGE
With a larger storage capacity up to 2 TB, the Gram Pro 17 provides more space for storing files and applications compared to the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000's max. storage capacity of 1 TB.

Storage Options	256 GB, 512 GB, 1 TB, 2 TB	256 GB, 512 GB, 1 TB
Upgradable	Yes	Yes
Total Slots	2	2
Storage type	SSD (M2)	SSD (M2)
NVMe	Yes	Yes

If your budget allows, we recommend opting for the largest possible disk size, considering the potential increase in storage capacity needs in the future. However, please keep in mind the question 'What will the laptop be used for?' when making this decision. Of course, you can later upgrade the hard disk capacity by getting a larger disk. However, if your laptop has only one disk slot, it may not be as straightforward as a RAM upgrade, where you simply add or replace a module, as moving or cloning files to a new disk may be necessary.

LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000: Display Comparison

The display is an essential aspect to consider when comparing the LG Gram Pro 17 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 since its is the component that you interact the most and significantly impact the experience.

Screen Area and Dimensions

Now let's look at the comparison of the actual display areas of both laptops below, keeping the bezels around the screens out of the equation. Gram Pro 17 has a display size of 17.0".On the other hand, Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has a larger17.3" display.The total usable screen area of the Gram Pro 17 is 838cm² / 130inch² whereas the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000's total usable screen area is 825cm² / 128inch².

PPI (Pixels per Inch)
Additionally, the Gram Pro 17 features a higher pixel density with 178 pixels per inch (PPI), ensuring sharper image details.

Screen PPI (Pixels Per Inch) Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

LG Gram Pro 17 178 ppi

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 127 ppi

Min 106 PPI

Average 141 PPI

Max 266.00 PPI

Refresh Rate
The Gram Pro 17 offers a higher refresh rate of 144 Hz, resulting in smoother motion and improved visual experience.

Furthermore, the Gram Pro 17 boasts a faster response time of 30.0 ms, reducing motion blur for fast-paced content.

Brightness
The Gram Pro 17 offers a higher maximum brightness of 400 nits, delivering a brighter screen.

Brightness Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

LG Gram Pro 17 400 nits

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 260 nits

Min

200 nits

Average 368 nits

Max 1200.00 nits

LG Gram Pro 17 vs MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 Connectivity Comparison

In terms of connectivity,

Wifi
Gram Pro 17 features a more advanced Wi-Fi standard v6E, providing faster and more reliable wireless connections compared to Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 (v6).

Below, you'll find a Wi-Fi Versions Table, along with their release dates and speeds, to provide a brief overview of its development.

Wi-Fi Versions and Speeds

Standard	Speed	Release Date	Network	Frequency Bands (GHz)
Wi-Fi 7	up to 40 Gbps (5 GB/s)	2023	802.11be	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6E	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2020	802.11ax	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2019	802.11ax	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 5	up to 6.93 Gbps (866.25 MB/s)	2014	802.11ac	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 4	up to 600 Mbps (75 MB/s)	2009	802.11n	2.4, 5

* Please note that the provided transfer rates are maximum theoretical values, and real-life performance may vary based on environmental factors.

USB
Both Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 have USB-A ports. Gram Pro 17 has 2x USB 3.2 USB-A ports, while Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has 3x USB 3.2 USB-A ports.
Both Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 have USB Type-C ports. Gram Pro 17 has 2x USB 4.0 USB Type-C ports, while Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has 2x USB 3.2 USB Type-C ports.

Below, you'll find a table of USB ports, along with their release dates and speeds.
To mitigate the confusion caused by generation names, the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) suggests using marketing names like USB 5Gbps, USB 10Gbps, and so forth, based on their respective transfer rates.

USB Type and Speeds

USB Type	Version	Speed	Date	Other Features/Explanations
USB4	Gen 4 (2.0)	80 Gbps	2022	Also known as USB 80Gbps
USB4	Gen 3×2	40 Gbps	2019	Also known as USB 40Gbps
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2x2	20 Gbps	2019	Double the data transfer rates of Gen 2
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.1
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.0
USB 3.1	3.1 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2013	Faster data transfer rates
USB 3.0	3.1 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2010	SuperSpeed USB, improved data transfer rates
USB 2.0	2.0	480 Mbps	2000	High-speed data transfer
USB 1.0	1.0	1.5 Mbps	1996	Original USB standard

Thunderbolt
Gram Pro 17 is equipped with Thunderbolt 4 port. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 does not have Thunderbolt port.

HDMI
Both Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 feature an HDMI port. Gram Pro 17 offers 1x HDMI 2.1, while Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 offers 1x HDMI 2.0.

Below, you'll find a comparison table detailing different HDMI versions, including their bandwidth, color depth, maximum resolution, and release dates. This information can be helpful in understanding the capabilities of each HDMI version and choosing the most suitable one for your needs.

HDMI Comparison Table

HDMI Version	Maximum Resolution	Bandwidth (Gbps)	Color Depth (bits)	Release Date
HDMI 2.1-2.1b	7680 x 4320 *(8K)* @ 60p 3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 120p	48.0	48	2017
HDMI 2.0-2.0b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 60p	18.0	48	2013
HDMI 1.4-1.4b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 30p	10.2	48	2009
HDMI 1.3-1.3a	2560 x 1440 @ 60p	10.2	48	2006
HDMI 1.0-1.2a	1920 x 1200 @ 60p	4.95	24	2002

* Please note that the provided resolution values represent the maximum supported resolution, and actual display quality may depend on other factors such as source content and connected devices.

SD Card Reader
Gram Pro 17 is equipped with an SD Card Reader for easy access to memory cards. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 does not have an SD Card Reader.

Audio Jack
Both Gram Pro 17 and Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 are equipped with a 3.5mm Audio Jack, providing seamless connection to headphones and speakers.

To summarize the connectivity and ports details, please refer to the table below to see them listed.

Connectivity and Ports
WiFi Standard (latest: v7)	v6E	v6
Bluetooth (latest: v5.4)	v5.3	v5.1
USB-A (latest: 3.2)	2x USB 3.2	3x USB 3.2
USB Type-C (latest: USB4 2.0)	2x USB 4.0	2x USB 3.2
Thunderbolt (latest: 4)	Thunderbolt 4	No
HDMI (latest: 2.1)	1x HDMI 2.1	1x HDMI 2.0
Display Port (latest: v2.0)	No	No
VGA	No	No
Fingerprint Sensor	Optional	No
Optical Drive	No	No
Audio Jack 3.5mm	Yes	Yes
Ethernet RJ45	No	Yes
SD CardReader	Yes	No
Proprietary Charging Port	No	Yes