Dell Precision 3580 vs Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 Comparison

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Dell Precision 3580 vs Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 Comparison Overview

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In this review, we will be comparing Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2, two laptops from Dell and Lenovo. Dell Precision 3580 was introduced to market in March 2023 and Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 was launched in May 2023. There is only 2 months difference between Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 so we are expecting this to be a fair comparison regarding age and technology level.

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Here is a brief look at the main features of Dell Precision 3580 and Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 before getting into our more detailed comparison.

Dell Precision 3580 Key Specs

Launched in March 2023
15.6" IPS LCD, 16:9 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core i5 1335U
GPU: RTX A500 Mobile 4GB
8GB Ram
357.8 x 233.3 x 20.8-22.8 mm (14.09 x 9.19 x 0.82-0.9 inches)
Weight: 1.61 kg (3.55 lbs)

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 Key Specs

Launched in May 2023
16.0" IPS LCD, 16:10 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core i5 1340P
GPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 (80EU)
16GB Ram
361.9 x 255.5 x 21.1 mm (14.25 x 10.06 x 0.83 inches)
Weight: 1.71 kg (3.77 lbs)

Let's read on the following sections in order to better understand in detail how Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 compares and decide which one is better for you.

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Reasons to choose Dell Precision 3580 over Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Weight	1.61 kg vs 1.71 kg	0.1 kg lighter
Screen-to-Body Ratio	~80.4% vs ~80.3%	Larger screen area ratio
Side Bezel Thickness	6.2 mm vs 8.6 mm	2.4 mm thinner bezels
Max Brightness	500 nits vs 400 nits	Brighter Screen
GPU Fabrication Process	8 nm vs 10 nm	Newer Generation GPU
GPU FLOPS	5.8 TFLOPS vs 1.41 TFLOPS	Dedicated GPU unit
GPU Type	Dedicated vs Integrated	More RAM Options
Upgradable RAM	Yes vs No	More advanced Bluetooth connectivity
Bluetooth	v5.3 vs v5.2	Read & Write SD Cards with the built-in reader
SD Card Reader	Yes vs No

Reasons to choose Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 over Dell Precision 3580

Display Size	16 inches vs 15.6 inches	Larger Screen Estate
Screen PPI	142 ppi vs 141 ppi	More pixels per inch
Screen Resolution	1920 x 1200 pixels vs 1920 x 1080 pixels	Higher pixel count screen
Dolby Atmos Speakers	Yes vs No	3D Surround Sound Support
Keyboard Backlight	Yes vs No	Easily see the keys under low light
Avg. MSRP Price	$1200-1600 vs $1600-2000	Lower Price (*may change depending on config, seller, location, and time)

Common Strengths of Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 and Dell Precision 3580

Launch Dates	March 2023 vs May 2023	Both laptops are recent models
Screen Coating	Matte vs Matte	Less reflections on the screen
Fast Charging Support	Yes vs Yes	Charge the battery in a shorter time
USB Power Delivery	Yes vs Yes	Charging via USB port gives flexibility
RAM Type	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)	Fast RAM type
Upgradable Storage	Yes vs Yes	Option to increase the Storage size
SSD Type	NVMe vs NVMe	Faster Data Transfers
Wi-Fi Standard	v6E vs v6E	Fast and Reliable Wi-Fi Connections
Thunderbolt Port	v4 vs v4	Fast data and power transfer via Thunderbolt Port
HDMI Output	1x HDMI 2.0 vs 1x HDMI 2.0	Connect to External Displays via HDMI cable
VGA Output	No vs No	Connect to External Displays via VGA cable
Ethernet RJ45 Port	Yes vs Yes	Fast connection to Network via ethernet cable
Numeric Pad	Yes vs Yes	Fast way to input numbers

Common Weaknesses of Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 and Dell Precision 3580

Touchscreen Capability	No vs No	No Touchscreen Capability
HDR Support	No vs No	No HDR Support

Dell Precision 3580 vs Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2: Physical Specs Comparison

In this section, we will be comparing the physical specifications and body features of the Dell Precision 3580 and the Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2.

Physical Specs
Weight	1.61 kg (3.55 lbs)	1.71 kg (3.77 lbs)
Surface Area	835 cm2 (129.5 inches2)	925 cm2 (143.4 inches2)
Screen to Surface Ratio	~80.4%	~80.3%
Side Bezel Thickness	~6.2 mm	~8.6 mm
Weight per Inch of Screen	0.10 kg/inch	0.11 kg/inch
	0.22 lbs/inch	0.242 lbs/inch
Colors	Gray	Black, Gray
Cover Opening Angle	180Â°	180Â°

Comparison of the Dell Precision 3580 and the Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 External Dimensions

Weight

Precision 3580 weighs 1.61 kg (3.55 lbs), whereas the ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 weighs 1.71 kg (3.77 lbs). There is a notable difference in weight between these two laptops. However, it's important to consider that comparing their weights directly may not provide a complete picture since they also have different display sizes.

Weight Comparison

Dell Precision 3580

Avg: 15.0-15.9"

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Avg: 16.0-16.9"

Thickness Comparison

Dell Precision 3580

Avg: 15.0-15.9"

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Avg: 16.0-16.9"

Another value that we use for comparing the weights of the laptops is the Weight per Inch of Screen, which is calculated by dividing the total weight of the model with its usable diagonal screen size. This value for the Dell Precision 3580 is 0.10 kg/inch.In comparison, this value for the Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 is 0.11 kg/inch.Here are some of the best performing laptops in this area:

Microsoft Surface Go 4: 0.05 kg/inch
LG Gram SuperSlim 15.6 2023: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus ProArt PZ13 HT5306: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus Zenbook A14 UX3407: 0.06 kg/inch
Microsoft Surface Pro 12: 0.06 kg/inch
Dell Latitude 7330: 0.07 kg/inch
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano Gen 2: 0.07 kg/inch
LG Gram 14 2022: 0.07 kg/inch

GPU Comparison

GPU Model	RTX A500 Mobile 4GB	Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 (80EU)
Base Clock Frequency	832 MHz	300 MHz
Boost CLock Frequency	1537 MHz	1100 MHz
TGP (Total Graphics Power)		15 W
Nvidia Optimus	Yes
Type	Dedicated	Integrated
FLOPS	6.296 TFLOPS	1,408 GFLOPS
Memory Size	4 GB	System Shared
Memory Type	GDDR6	System Shared
Memory Bus	64 bit	System Shared
Memory Speed	1500 MHz 12 Gbps effective	System Shared
Shading Units Cores	2048	640
TMUs	64	40
ROPs	32	20

GPU is as critical as the CPU for graphic heavy applications and the table above gives a picture of how the two GPU compares. FLOPS is a measure of a GPU's performance based on the number of floating-point arithmetic calculations that the processor can perform within a second. Dell Precision 3580 has a FLOPS value of 5.8 TFLOPS whereas the Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 ' has a FLOPS value of 1.41 TFLOPS. If graphical performance of the laptop is important for your use type, the Dell Precision 3580 may be the better choice between these two setups.

RAM Comparison

RAM	8GB 16GB 32GB 64GB	16GB 32GB 64GB
Memory Bus	1x8 GB	2x8 GB
RAM Clock	4800 MHz	6400 MHz
RAM Type	DDR5	LPDDR5X
Upgradable	Yes	No
Max RAM Size	64 GB
Total Slots	2
Memory Bus	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)

The ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 provides a larger RAM capacity of 16 GB, which allows for smoother multitasking and improved performance in memory-demanding tasks compared to the Precision 3580's RAM capacity of 8 GB.

LOCAL LLM Compatibility Evaluation

This quick guide shows what types of large language models (LLMs) each of these laptops could support, based on their respective hardware specifications. It's meant to help you compare their suitability for running AI models locally.

LLM Category	Dell Precision 3580 CPU/NPU: Intel Core I5 1335u (No NPU)RAM: 8 GBGPU: Rtx A500 Mobile 4gb	Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 CPU/NPU: Intel Core I5 1340p (No NPU)RAM: 16 GBGPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 (80eu)
Small Models(1-3B):Examples: Phi-2, Qwen-1.8B	✔ Expected performance: "Runs Well" 2B model with Q4 quantization (recommended): Requires ~2.5 GB memory - fits in your 4 GB VRAM (See performance table below for details)	✔ Suitable 2B model with Q4 quantization (recommended): Requires ~2.5 GB memory - fits in your 16 GB RAM Suitable, but iGPU typically falls in "Modest Speed" category (See performance table below for details)
Medium Models(7-8B):Examples: Mistral-7B, Qwen-7B	✖ Not supported.	✔ Suitable 7B model with Q4 quantization (recommended): Requires ~5.3 GB memory - fits in your 16 GB RAM Suitable, but iGPU typically falls in "Modest Speed" category
Large Models(13-30B):Examples: Llama 3 14B, Qwen1.5 14B, Dense 30B	✖ Not supported.	⚠ 13–15B: Borderline / Slow. 16–30B: Not practical.
Extra-Large Models(65B+):Examples: LLaMA2-70B, Qwen1.5-72B	✖ Not practical on most laptops (64GB+ workstation laptops may be exceptions).	✖ Not practical on most laptops (64GB+ workstation laptops may be exceptions).

For more detailed LLM evaluation (subcategories, performance ranges, memory breakdown)

Dell Precision 3580|Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Note: Optimized (e.g., 4-bit) models may run on limited hardware. Performance depends on runtime and setup.

📌 Model Types: Dense 30B Q4 models typically require around 19–22 GB of total memory, so they run best on systems with ≥24 GB unified memory. MoE models like Mixtral 8x7B (≈47B total parameters, usually ≈23–26 GB in 4-bit) also need high memory because all experts must be loaded, even though only a few are active per token. They reduce compute cost per token (similar to a ~12–13B dense model), but not memory usage, so they are not practical on 14–16 GB systems. Note: iGPU laptops use shared (unified) memory with lower bandwidth, making them more sensitive to memory pressure and offloading.

🚀 Modern NPU (Neural Processing Unit): Modern processors like AMD Ryzen AI and Intel Core Ultra feature NPU and unified memory architecture. NPUs provide modest performance gains (0-30% faster) with better power efficiency compared to iGPU-only execution. Real-world tests show ~3-10 tok/s range on 13B models with 32GB RAM (varies by runtime, quantization, and context), comparable to iGPU but more power-efficient. Note: These figures are examples from various NPU systems; actual performance depends on your specific hardware configuration.

Understanding Performance Categories

💡 Since this system uses iGPU, it typically falls in the "Modest Speed" range; more comfortable with short-medium context, expect noticeable slowdown with long context.

The performance descriptions use general categories because actual speed varies greatly based on your specific hardware, model optimization, context length, and runtime software.

Performance Level	Typical Range	User Experience
Runs Smoothly (High-end dGPU)	50+ tok/s	Real-time response. Feels instant, like ChatGPT.
Runs Well (Mid-range dGPU)	20-50 tok/s	Good interactive performance. Slight delay, but usable.
Modest Speed (iGPU/NPU/CPU)	5-20 tok/s	Usable for tasks that don't need instant responses. Noticeable typing delay.
Borderline / Slow (Limited hardware)	2-5 tok/s	Very slow. Patience required. Better for batch processing.
Not Practical	<2 tok/s	Too slow for regular use. May cause system hangs or instability.

💡 Tip: Your actual results may be higher or lower than these ranges. Test with your specific hardware to know for sure!

⚠️ Note: Performance categorization is based on how much total memory is available for the model (unified RAM) and whether it needs to spill into slower storage. GPU type (memory bandwidth, compute power) can also affect actual performance. Currently, we prioritize whether the model fits in available unified memory for classification. We may refine this categorization in future updates based on more detailed benchmarks.

BATTERY

BATTERY	42 Wh 54 Wh	52.5 Wh 86 Wh
Battery Type	Li-Ion	Li-Po
Replaceable	No	No
Fast Charging	Yes	No
USB Power Delivery	Yes	Yes
Charging Port Position	Left	Left
Charge Power	65 / 100 / 130 W	65 / 100 / 135 W
Voltage	11.4 V
Cable Length	1 meters

On the other hand, the ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 features a higher battery capacity of 53 Wh, delivering longer usage time compared to the Precision 3580's 42 Wh.

Battery Comparison

Dell Precision 3580

Avg: 15.0-15.9"

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Avg: 16.0-16.9"

STORAGE
With a larger storage capacity up to 4 TB, the Precision 3580 provides more space for storing files and applications compared to the ThinkPad P16s Gen 2's max. storage capacity of 2 TB.

Storage Options	256 GB, 512 GB, 1 TB, 2 TB, 4 TB	256 GB, 512 GB, 1 TB, 2 TB
Upgradable	Yes	Yes
Total Slots	2	1
Storage type	SSD (M2)	SSD (M2)
NVMe	Yes	Yes

If your budget allows, we recommend opting for the largest possible disk size, considering the potential increase in storage capacity needs in the future. However, please keep in mind the question 'What will the laptop be used for?' when making this decision. Of course, you can later upgrade the hard disk capacity by getting a larger disk. However, if your laptop has only one disk slot, it may not be as straightforward as a RAM upgrade, where you simply add or replace a module, as moving or cloning files to a new disk may be necessary.

Dell Precision 3580 vs Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2: Display Comparison

The display is an essential aspect to consider when comparing the Dell Precision 3580 and Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 since its is the component that you interact the most and significantly impact the experience.

Screen Area and Dimensions

Now let's look at the comparison of the actual display areas of both laptops below, keeping the bezels around the screens out of the equation. Precision 3580 has a display size of 15.6".On the other hand, ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 has a larger16.0" display.The total usable screen area of the Precision 3580 is 670cm² / 104inch² whereas the ThinkPad P16s Gen 2's total usable screen area is 742cm² / 115inch².

PPI (Pixels per Inch)
Additionally, the ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 features a higher pixel density with 142 pixels per inch (PPI), ensuring sharper image details.

Screen PPI (Pixels Per Inch) Comparison

Dell Precision 3580

Avg: 15.0-15.9"

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Avg: 16.0-16.9"

Refresh Rate
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 offer the same refresh rate of 60 Hz.

Brightness
The Precision 3580 offers a higher maximum brightness of 500 nits, delivering a brighter screen.

Brightness Comparison

Dell Precision 3580

Avg: 15.0-15.9"

Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2

Avg: 16.0-16.9"

Dell Precision 3580 vs Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 Connectivity Comparison

In terms of connectivity,

Wifi
Both laptops offer the same Wi-Fi standard (v6E), ensuring fast and reliable wireless connections.

Below, you'll find a Wi-Fi Versions Table, along with their release dates and speeds, to provide a brief overview of its development.

Wi-Fi Versions and Speeds

Standard	Speed	Release Date	Network	Frequency Bands (GHz)
Wi-Fi 7	up to 40 Gbps (5 GB/s)	2023	802.11be	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6E	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2020	802.11ax	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2019	802.11ax	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 5	up to 6.93 Gbps (866.25 MB/s)	2014	802.11ac	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 4	up to 600 Mbps (75 MB/s)	2009	802.11n	2.4, 5

* Please note that the provided transfer rates are maximum theoretical values, and real-life performance may vary based on environmental factors.

USB
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 feature 2x USB 3.2 USB-A ports.
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 feature 2x USB 4.0 USB Type-C ports.

Below, you'll find a table of USB ports, along with their release dates and speeds.
To mitigate the confusion caused by generation names, the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) suggests using marketing names like USB 5Gbps, USB 10Gbps, and so forth, based on their respective transfer rates.

USB Type and Speeds

USB Type	Version	Speed	Date	Other Features/Explanations
USB4	Gen 4 (2.0)	80 Gbps	2022	Also known as USB 80Gbps
USB4	Gen 3×2	40 Gbps	2019	Also known as USB 40Gbps
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2x2	20 Gbps	2019	Double the data transfer rates of Gen 2
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.1
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.0
USB 3.1	3.1 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2013	Faster data transfer rates
USB 3.0	3.1 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2010	SuperSpeed USB, improved data transfer rates
USB 2.0	2.0	480 Mbps	2000	High-speed data transfer
USB 1.0	1.0	1.5 Mbps	1996	Original USB standard

Thunderbolt
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 are equipped with Thunderbolt 4 ports.

HDMI
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 feature an HDMI port (1x HDMI 2.0) for connecting to external monitors.

Below, you'll find a comparison table detailing different HDMI versions, including their bandwidth, color depth, maximum resolution, and release dates. This information can be helpful in understanding the capabilities of each HDMI version and choosing the most suitable one for your needs.

HDMI Comparison Table

HDMI Version	Maximum Resolution	Bandwidth (Gbps)	Color Depth (bits)	Release Date
HDMI 2.1-2.1b	7680 x 4320 *(8K)* @ 60p 3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 120p	48.0	48	2017
HDMI 2.0-2.0b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 60p	18.0	48	2013
HDMI 1.4-1.4b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 30p	10.2	48	2009
HDMI 1.3-1.3a	2560 x 1440 @ 60p	10.2	48	2006
HDMI 1.0-1.2a	1920 x 1200 @ 60p	4.95	24	2002

* Please note that the provided resolution values represent the maximum supported resolution, and actual display quality may depend on other factors such as source content and connected devices.

SD Card Reader
Precision 3580 is equipped with an SD Card Reader for easy access to memory cards. ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 does not have an SD Card Reader.

Audio Jack
Both Precision 3580 and ThinkPad P16s Gen 2 are equipped with a 3.5mm Audio Jack, providing seamless connection to headphones and speakers.

To summarize the connectivity and ports details, please refer to the table below to see them listed.

Connectivity and Ports
WiFi Standard (latest: v7)	v6E	v6E
Bluetooth (latest: v5.4)	v5.3	v5.2
USB-A (latest: 3.2)	2x USB 3.2	2x USB 3.2
USB Type-C (latest: USB4 2.0)	2x USB 4.0	2x USB 4.0
Thunderbolt (latest: 5)	Thunderbolt 4	Thunderbolt 4
HDMI (latest: 2.1)	1x HDMI 2.0	1x HDMI 2.0
Display Port (latest: v2.0)	No	No
VGA	No	No
Fingerprint Sensor	Optional	Optional
Optical Drive	No	No
Audio Jack 3.5mm	Yes	Yes
Ethernet RJ45	Yes	Yes
SD CardReader	Yes	No
Proprietary Charging Port	No	No

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CPU Model	Intel Core i5 1335U Intel Core i5 1340P Intel Core i5 1350P Intel Core i7 1355U Intel Core i7 1360P Intel Core i7 1370P	Intel Core i5 1340P Intel Core i5 1350P Intel Core i7 1360P Intel Core i7 1370P
Base Frequency	1.3 GHz	1.9 GHz
Turbo Frequency	4.6 GHz	4.6 GHz
Number of Cores	10	12
Number of Threads	12	16
L3 Cache	12 MB	12 MB
Integrated GPU	Intel Iris Xe Graphics (80EU)	Intel Iris Xe Graphics (80EU)
CPU Fabrication Process	10 nm	10 nm
Geekbench 5 (Single)	1706	1664
Geekbench 5 (Multi)	7593	9655
Cinebench 23 (Single)	1726	1704
Cinebench 23 (Multi)	7438	10671