Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE Comparison

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16 inches | December 2023

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16 inches | May 2021

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Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE Comparison Overview

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In this review, we will be comparing Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE, two laptops by Acer. Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 was introduced to market in December 2023 and Acer Predator Triton 500 SE was launched in May 2021. As you can see, Predator Triton 500 SE is 2 years older than Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51. Let's see if this age difference between two laptops makes a big difference.

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Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE are members of Acer's Predator Triton series of laptops. Below you can find the latest models from this series.

Acer Predator Triton Series History

	Release Date	Screen Size	Dimensions	Weight
Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51	December 2023	16.0"	358.5 x 262.4 x 19.9 mm	2.5 kg (5.51 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 17 X	August 2023	17.0"	380.35 x 280 x 19.9-21.9 mm	3 kg (6.62 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 14 PT14-51	April 2023	14.0"	313.5 x 227 x 18.9-19.9 mm	1.7 kg (3.75 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 300 SE 14 2022	May 2022	14.0"	312.4 x 226 x 19.8 mm	1.7 kg (3.75 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 300 SE 16 2022	May 2022	16.0"	358.5 x 262.4 x 19.9-21.9 mm	2.4 kg (5.29 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 500 SE 2022	January 2022	16.0"	358.5 x 262.4 x 19.9 mm	2.3 kg (5.07 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 300	May 2021	15.6"	363 x 254 x 19.9 mm	2 kg (4.41 lbs)
Acer Predator Triton 500 SE	May 2021	16.0"	358.1 x 261.6 x 19.9 mm	2.44 kg (5.38 lbs)

Here is a brief look at the main features of Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Acer Predator Triton 500 SE before getting into our more detailed comparison.

Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 Key Specs

Launched in December 2023
16.0" IPS LCD, 16:10 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 155H
GPU: GeForce RTX 4050 Mobile 6GB
16GB Ram
358.5 x 262.4 x 19.9 mm (14.11 x 10.33 x 0.78 inches)
Weight: 2.5 kg (5.51 lbs)

Acer Predator Triton 500 SE Key Specs

Launched in May 2021
16.0" IPS LCD, 16:10 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core i9 11900H
GPU: GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile 6GB
8GB Ram
358.1 x 261.6 x 19.9 mm (14.1 x 10.3 x 0.78 inches)
Weight: 2.44 kg (5.38 lbs)

Let's read on the following sections in order to better understand in detail how Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE compares and decide which one is better for you.

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Reasons to choose Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 over Acer Predator Triton 500 SE

Screen PPI	256 ppi vs 189 ppi	More pixels per inch
Screen Resolution	3200 x 2560 pixels vs 2560 x 1600 pixels	Higher pixel count screen
CPU Fabrication Process	7 nm vs 10 nm	Newer Generation CPU
GPU Fabrication Process	4 nm vs 8 nm	Newer Generation GPU
RAM Type	DDR5 vs DDR4	Faster RAM Type
Max Total RAM	64 GB vs 32 GB	Higher RAM potential
RAM BUS	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)	Faster RAM
Bluetooth	v5.3 vs v5.1	More advanced Bluetooth connectivity
USB-C Port Type	v4.0 vs v3.2	Faster USB-C connection

Reasons to choose Acer Predator Triton 500 SE over Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51

Weight	2.44 kg vs 2.50 kg	0.06 kg lighter
Screen-to-Body Ratio	~79.2% vs ~78.9%	Larger screen area ratio
Side Bezel Thickness	6.8 mm vs 6.9 mm	0.1 mm thinner bezels
Max Brightness	1250 nits vs 400 nits	Brighter Screen
GPU FLOPS	12.6 TFLOPS vs 6.8-9.5 TFLOPS

Common Strengths of Acer Predator Triton 500 SE and Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51

Launch Dates	December 2023 vs May 2021	Both laptops are recent models
Screen Coating	Matte vs Matte	Less reflections on the screen
Fast Charging Support	Yes vs Yes	Charge the battery in a shorter time
Upgradable RAM	Yes vs Yes	Option to increase the RAM size
RAM Type	DDR5 vs DDR4	Fast RAM type
Upgradable Storage	Yes vs Yes	Option to increase the Storage size
SSD Type	NVMe vs NVMe	Faster Data Transfers
Wi-Fi Standard	v6E vs v6	Fast and Reliable Wi-Fi Connections
Thunderbolt Port	v4 vs v4	Fast data and power transfer via Thunderbolt Port
HDMI Output	1x HDMI 2.1 vs 1x HDMI 2.1	Connect to External Displays via HDMI cable
VGA Output	No vs No	Connect to External Displays via VGA cable
Built-in SD Card Reader	Yes vs Yes	Read & Write SD Cards
Keyboard Backlight	Yes vs Yes	Easily see the keys under low light

Common Weaknesses of Acer Predator Triton 500 SE and Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51

Touchscreen Capability	No vs No	No Touchscreen Capability
HDR Support	No vs No	No HDR Support

Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE: Physical Specs Comparison

In this section, we will be comparing the physical specifications and body features of the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and the Acer Predator Triton 500 SE.

Physical Specs
Weight	2.5 kg (5.51 lbs)	2.44 kg (5.38 lbs)
Surface Area	941 cm2 (145.8 inches2)	937 cm2 (145.2 inches2)
Screen to Surface Ratio	~78.9%	~79.2%
Side Bezel Thickness	~6.9 mm	~6.8 mm
Weight per Inch of Screen	0.16 kg/inch	0.15 kg/inch
	0.352 lbs/inch	0.33 lbs/inch
Colors	Gray	Gray

Comparison of the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and the Acer Predator Triton 500 SE External Dimensions

Weight

Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 weighs 2.5 kg (5.51 lbs), whereas the Predator Triton 500 SE weighs 2.44 kg (5.38 lbs). There is a notable difference in weight between these two laptops. The weight difference between the two laptops is not significant.

Weight Comparison

Displays size 16.0-16.9 inches

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Thickness Comparison

Displays size 16.0-16.9 inches

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Another value that we use for comparing the weights of the laptops is the Weight per Inch of Screen, which is calculated by dividing the total weight of the model with its usable diagonal screen size. This value for the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 is 0.16 kg/inch.In comparison, this value for the Acer Predator Triton 500 SE is 0.15 kg/inch.Here are some of the best performing laptops in this area:

Microsoft Surface Go 4: 0.05 kg/inch
LG Gram SuperSlim 15.6 2023: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus ProArt PZ13 HT5306: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus Zenbook A14 UX3407: 0.06 kg/inch
Microsoft Surface Pro 12: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus ProArt PZ14 HT7407: 0.06 kg/inch
Dell Latitude 7330: 0.07 kg/inch
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano Gen 2: 0.07 kg/inch

Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE: Internals Comparison

CPU Comparison

CPU Model	Intel Core Ultra 7 155H Intel Core Ultra 7 165H Intel Core Ultra 9 185H	Intel Core i9 11900H
Base Frequency	3.8 GHz	2.1-2.5 GHz
Turbo Frequency	4.8 GHz	4.9 GHz
Number of Cores	16 (6P+10E)	8
Number of Threads	22	16
L3 Cache	24 MB	24 MB
Integrated GPU	Arc Graphics (8-Cores)	Intel UHD Graphics for 11th Gen (32 EU)
CPU Fabrication Process	7 nm	10 nm
Cinebench 23 (Single)	1745	1585
Cinebench 23 (Multi)	14983	12258

Above you can see the CPU options and the CineBench and GeekBench test scores for both laptops, which gives an idea about what kind of performance difference you may experience between the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Acer Predator Triton 500 SE.

You may also read reviews of latest laptops with the same CPUs and compare them:

Laptops with: Intel Core Ultra 7 155H

Laptops with: Intel Core i9 11900H

GPU Comparison

GPU Model	GeForce RTX 4050 Mobile 6GB GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile 8GB GeForce RTX 4070 Mobile 8GB	GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile 6GB GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile 8GB GeForce RTX 3080 Mobile 8GB
Base Clock Frequency	1455 MHz	1305 MHz
Boost CLock Frequency	1755 MHz	1425 MHz
TGP (Total Graphics Power)	50 W	105 W
Nvidia Optimus	Yes, Advanced Optimus	MUX
Type	Dedicated	Dedicated
FLOPS	6.8-9.5 TFLOPS	12.6 TFLOPS
Memory Size	6 GB	6 GB
Memory Type	GDDR6	GDDR6
Memory Bus	96 bit	192 bit
Memory Speed	~16 Gbps	14 Gbps
Shading Units Cores	2560	3840
TMUs	80	120
ROPs	48	48

GPU is as critical as the CPU for graphic heavy applications and the table above gives a picture of how the two GPU compares. FLOPS is a measure of a GPU's performance based on the number of floating-point arithmetic calculations that the processor can perform within a second. Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 has a FLOPS value of 6.8-9.5 TFLOPS whereas the Acer Predator Triton 500 SE ' has a FLOPS value of 12.6 TFLOPS. If graphical performance of the laptop is important for your use type, the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 may be the better choice between these two setups.

RAM Comparison

RAM	16GB 32GB 64GB	8GB 16GB 32GB
Memory Bus	2x8 GB	1x8 GB
RAM Clock	5600 MHz	3200 MHz
RAM Type	DDR5	DDR4
Upgradable	Yes	Yes
Max RAM Size	64 GB	32 GB
Total Slots	2	1

With a larger RAM capacity of 16 GB, the Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 offers an advantage for multitasking and resource-intensive applications compared to the Predator Triton 500 SE's RAM capacity of 8 GB.

LOCAL LLM Compatibility Evaluation

This quick guide shows what types of large language models (LLMs) each of these laptops could support, based on their respective hardware specifications. It's meant to help you compare their suitability for running AI models locally.

LLM Category	Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 (PTN16-51)	Acer Predator Triton 500 SE
CPU	Intel Core Ultra 7 155H	Intel Core i9 11900H
GPU	GeForce RTX 4050 Mobile 6GB	GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile 6GB
Memory	16 GB ; 6 GB VRAM	8 GB ; 6 GB VRAM
Available for LLM total	~17.3 GB (4.5 GB VRAM 12.8 GB RAM)	~10 GB (4.5 GB VRAM 5.5 GB RAM)
Small Models (1-3B): Examples: Phi-2, Qwen-1.8B Requires ~2 GB memory	✔ Runs Well fits in your 6 GB VRAM	✔ Runs Smoothly fits in your 6 GB VRAM
Medium Models (7-8B): Examples: Mistral-7B, Qwen-7B Requires ~5 GB memory	✔ Modest Speed doesn't fit in 6 GB VRAM, spills to RAM (VRAM + RAM, slower)	✔ Modest Speed doesn't fit in 6 GB VRAM, spills to RAM (VRAM + RAM, slower)
Large Models
13-15B Models (e.g., Llama 3 14B, Qwen1.5 14B) Requires ~9 GB memory	! Not Practical doesn't fit in 6 GB VRAM, spills to RAM (VRAM + RAM, slower)	! Not Practical doesn't fit in 6 GB VRAM, spills to RAM (VRAM + RAM, slower)
16-24B Models (e.g., Dense 20B Q4 ~15.5GB) Requires ~14 GB memory	! Not Practical doesn't fit in 6 GB VRAM, spills to RAM (VRAM + RAM, slower)	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM
24-30B Models (e.g., Dense 30B Q4) Requires ~18 GB memory	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM
MoE Models (Mixture-of-Experts) (e.g., Mixtral 8x7B - total ~47B, active ~12-13B) Requires ~24 GB memory	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM
Extra-Large Models (65B+): Examples: LLaMA2-70B, Qwen1.5-72B Requires ~42 GB memory	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM	✖ Not Supported exceeds available RAM

For more detailed LLM evaluation (subcategories, performance ranges, memory breakdown)

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Note: Optimized (e.g., 4-bit) models may run on limited hardware. Performance depends on runtime and setup.

📌 Model Types: Dense 30B Q4 models typically require around 19–22 GB of total VRAM, so they run best on systems with ≥24 GB VRAM. MoE models like Mixtral 8x7B (≈47B total parameters, usually ≈23–26 GB in 4-bit) also need high memory because all experts must be loaded, even though only a few are active per token. They reduce compute cost per token (similar to a ~12–13B dense model), but not memory usage, so they are not practical on 14–16 GB systems.

🚀 Modern NPU (Neural Processing Unit): Modern processors like AMD Ryzen AI and Intel Core Ultra feature NPU and unified memory architecture. NPUs provide modest performance gains (0-30% faster) with better power efficiency compared to iGPU-only execution. Real-world tests show ~3-10 tok/s range on 13B models with 32GB RAM (varies by runtime, quantization, and context), comparable to iGPU but more power-efficient. Note: These figures are examples from various NPU systems; actual performance depends on your specific hardware configuration.

Understanding Performance Categories

The performance descriptions use general categories because actual speed varies greatly based on your specific hardware, model optimization, context length, and runtime software.

Performance Level	Typical Range	User Experience
Runs Smoothly (High-end dGPU)	50+ tok/s	Real-time response. Feels instant, like ChatGPT.
Runs Well (Mid-range dGPU)	20-50 tok/s	Good interactive performance. Slight delay, but usable.
Modest Speed (iGPU/NPU/CPU)	5-20 tok/s	Usable for tasks that don't need instant responses. Noticeable typing delay.
Borderline / Slow (Limited hardware)	2-5 tok/s	Slow-Very slow. Patience required. Better for batch processing.
Not Practical	<2 tok/s	Too slow for regular use. May cause system hangs or instability.

💡 Tip: Your actual results may be higher or lower than these ranges. Test with your specific hardware to know for sure!

⚠️ Note: Performance categorization is based on VRAM capacity and RAM fallback status. GPU type (memory bandwidth, compute power) can also affect actual performance. Currently, we prioritize whether the model fits in VRAM or requires RAM fallback for classification. We may refine this categorization in future updates based on more detailed benchmarks.

BATTERY

BATTERY	99 Wh	0 Wh
Battery Type	Li-Po	Li-Ion
Replaceable	No	No
Fast Charging	Yes	Yes
USB Power Delivery	Yes
Charging Port Position	Left	Left
Charge Power	230 W	230 W

On the other hand, the Predator Triton 500 SE features a higher battery capacity of 100 Wh, delivering longer usage time compared to the Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51's 99 Wh.

Battery Comparison

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STORAGE
With a larger storage capacity up to 4 TB, the Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 provides more space for storing files and applications compared to the Predator Triton 500 SE's max. storage capacity of 1 TB.

Storage Options	1 TB, 2 TB, 4 TB	512 GB, 1 TB
Upgradable	Yes	Yes
Total Slots	2	1
Storage type	SSD (M2)	SSD (M2)
NVMe	Yes	Yes
Memory Bus	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)	PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)

If your budget allows, we recommend opting for the largest possible disk size, considering the potential increase in storage capacity needs in the future. However, please keep in mind the question 'What will the laptop be used for?' when making this decision. Of course, you can later upgrade the hard disk capacity by getting a larger disk. However, if your laptop has only one disk slot, it may not be as straightforward as a RAM upgrade, where you simply add or replace a module, as moving or cloning files to a new disk may be necessary.

Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE: Display Comparison

The display is an essential aspect to consider when comparing the Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Acer Predator Triton 500 SE since its is the component that you interact the most and significantly impact the experience.

Screen Area and Dimensions

Now let's look at the comparison of the actual display areas of both laptops below, keeping the bezels around the screens out of the equation. Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE screens have the same size of 16.0".The total usable screen area of the Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 is 742cm² / 115inch² whereas the Predator Triton 500 SE's total usable screen area is 742cm² / 115inch².

PPI (Pixels per Inch)
Additionally, the Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 features a higher pixel density with 256 pixels per inch (PPI), ensuring sharper image details.

Screen PPI (Pixels Per Inch) Comparison

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Refresh Rate
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE offer the same refresh rate of 165 Hz.

Brightness
The Predator Triton 500 SE offers a higher maximum brightness of 1250 nits, delivering a brighter screen.

Brightness Comparison

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Acer Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 vs Acer Predator Triton 500 SE Connectivity Comparison

In terms of connectivity,

Wifi
Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 features a more advanced Wi-Fi standard v6E, providing faster and more reliable wireless connections compared to Predator Triton 500 SE (v6).

Below, you'll find a Wi-Fi Versions Table, along with their release dates and speeds, to provide a brief overview of its development.

Wi-Fi Versions and Speeds

Standard	Speed	Release Date	Network	Frequency Bands (GHz)
Wi-Fi 7	up to 40 Gbps (5 GB/s)	2023	802.11be	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6E	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2020	802.11ax	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2019	802.11ax	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 5	up to 6.93 Gbps (866.25 MB/s)	2014	802.11ac	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 4	up to 600 Mbps (75 MB/s)	2009	802.11n	2.4, 5

* Please note that the provided transfer rates are maximum theoretical values, and real-life performance may vary based on environmental factors.

USB
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE feature 2x USB 3.2 USB-A ports.
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE have USB Type-C ports. Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 has 2x USB 4.0 USB Type-C ports, while Predator Triton 500 SE has 2x USB 3.2 USB Type-C ports.

Below, you'll find a table of USB ports, along with their release dates and speeds.
To mitigate the confusion caused by generation names, the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) suggests using marketing names like USB 5Gbps, USB 10Gbps, and so forth, based on their respective transfer rates.

USB Type and Speeds

USB Type	Version	Speed	Date	Other Features/Explanations
USB4	Gen 4 (2.0)	80 Gbps	2022	Also known as USB 80Gbps
USB4	Gen 3×2	40 Gbps	2019	Also known as USB 40Gbps
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2x2	20 Gbps	2019	Double the data transfer rates of Gen 2
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.1
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.0
USB 3.1	3.1 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2013	Faster data transfer rates
USB 3.0	3.1 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2010	SuperSpeed USB, improved data transfer rates
USB 2.0	2.0	480 Mbps	2000	High-speed data transfer
USB 1.0	1.0	1.5 Mbps	1996	Original USB standard

Thunderbolt
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE are equipped with Thunderbolt 4 ports.

HDMI
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE feature an HDMI port (1x HDMI 2.1) for connecting to external monitors.

Below, you'll find a comparison table detailing different HDMI versions, including their bandwidth, color depth, maximum resolution, and release dates. This information can be helpful in understanding the capabilities of each HDMI version and choosing the most suitable one for your needs.

HDMI Comparison Table

HDMI Version	Maximum Resolution	Bandwidth (Gbps)	Color Depth (bits)	Release Date
HDMI 2.1-2.1b	7680 x 4320 *(8K)* @ 60p 3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 120p	48.0	48	2017
HDMI 2.0-2.0b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 60p	18.0	48	2013
HDMI 1.4-1.4b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 30p	10.2	48	2009
HDMI 1.3-1.3a	2560 x 1440 @ 60p	10.2	48	2006
HDMI 1.0-1.2a	1920 x 1200 @ 60p	4.95	24	2002

* Please note that the provided resolution values represent the maximum supported resolution, and actual display quality may depend on other factors such as source content and connected devices.

SD Card Reader
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE come with an SD Card Reader for easy access to memory cards.

Audio Jack
Both Predator Triton Neo 16 PTN16-51 and Predator Triton 500 SE are equipped with a 3.5mm Audio Jack, providing seamless connection to headphones and speakers.

To summarize the connectivity and ports details, please refer to the table below to see them listed.

Connectivity and Ports
WiFi Standard (latest: v7)	v6E	v6
Bluetooth (latest: v6.2)	v5.3	v5.1
USB-A (latest: 3.2)	2x USB 3.2	2x USB 3.2
USB Type-C (latest: USB4 2.0)	2x USB 4.0	2x USB 3.2
Thunderbolt (latest: 5)	Thunderbolt 4	Thunderbolt 4
HDMI (latest: 2.1)	1x HDMI 2.1	1x HDMI 2.1
Display Port (latest: v2.0)	No	No
VGA	No	No
Optical Drive	No	No
Audio Jack 3.5mm	Yes	Yes
Ethernet RJ45	No	No
SD CardReader	Yes	Yes
Proprietary Charging Port	Yes	Yes