MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022 Comparison

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MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022 Comparison Overview

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In this review, we will be comparing Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022, two laptops from MSI and LG. MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 was introduced to market in January 2020 and LG Gram 17 2022 was launched in April 2022. As you can see, Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 is 2 years older than Gram 17 2022. Let's see if this age difference between two laptops makes a big difference.

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Here is a brief look at the main features of MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and LG Gram 17 2022 before getting into our more detailed comparison.

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 Key Specs

Launched in January 2020
17.3" IPS LCD, 16:9 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H
GPU: Radeon RX 5500M 4GB
8GB Ram
397 x 260 x 23 mm (15.63 x 10.24 x 0.91 inches)
Weight: 2.24 kg (4.94 lbs)

LG Gram 17 2022 Key Specs

Launched in April 2022
17.0" IPS LCD, 16:10 Aspect Ratio Display
CPU: Intel Core i5 1240P
GPU: Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 (80EU)
8GB Ram
378.8 x 258.8 x 17.7 mm (14.91 x 10.19 x 0.7 inches)
Weight: 1.35 kg (2.98 lbs)

Let's read on the following sections in order to better understand in detail how Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022 compares and decide which one is better for you.

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Reasons to choose MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 over LG Gram 17 2022

Display Size	17.3 inches vs 17 inches	Larger Screen Estate
Refresh Rate	120 Hz vs 60 Hz	Smoother media experience
CPU Fabrication Process	7 nm vs 10 nm	Newer Generation CPU
GPU Fabrication Process	7 nm vs 10 nm	Newer Generation GPU
GPU FLOPS	4.632 TFLOPS vs 1.41 TFLOPS	Dedicated GPU unit
GPU Type	Dedicated vs Integrated	More RAM Options
Upgradable RAM	Yes vs No	Connect more device at the same time
Number of USB-A Ports	3x USB 3.2 vs 2x USB 3.2	Connects to the local network via Ethernet RJ45
Ethernet RJ45 Port	Yes vs No

Reasons to choose LG Gram 17 2022 over MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000

Weight	1.35 kg vs 2.24 kg	0.89 kg lighter
Screen-to-Body Ratio	~85.5% vs ~79.9%	Larger screen area ratio
Side Bezel Thickness	6.3 mm vs 7 mm	0.7 mm thinner bezels
Noise Level	37.2 dB vs 48 dB	Less fan noise
Contrast Rate	1200:1 vs 1148:1	more pleasing colors
Screen PPI	178 ppi vs 127 ppi	More pixels per inch
Screen Resolution	2560 x 1600 pixels vs 1920 x 1080 pixels	Higher pixel count screen
sRGB Color Space	99.9% vs 60%	Wider sRGB Color Space Coverage
DCI-P3 Color Gamut	98.1% vs 40.5%	Wider DCI-P3 Color Gamut
Adobe RGB Profile	85.9% vs 42%	Wider Adobe RGB Coverage
Max Brightness	350 nits vs 260 nits	Brighter Screen
Response Time	32 ms vs 35 ms	Faster Response screen
USB Power Delivery	Yes vs No	Charges via USB-C type cable
RAM Type	LPDDR5 vs DDR4	Faster RAM Type
RAM BUS	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)	Faster RAM
Speaker Loudness	88.1 dB vs 84 dB	Generates higher sound levels
Fingerprint Sensor	Yes vs No	Easy login with fingerprint
Webcam Resolution	1920 x 1080 vs 1280 x 720	Higher Resolution Camera
USB-C Port Type	v4.0 vs v3.2	Faster USB-C connection
Thunderbolt	v4 vs No	Support audio, data, power and video all through one single port
SD Card Reader	Yes vs No	Read & Write SD Cards with the built-in reader

Common Strengths of LG Gram 17 2022 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000

Screen Coating	Matte vs Matte	Less reflections on the screen
Fast Charging Support	Yes vs Yes	Charge the battery in a shorter time
RAM Type	PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x) vs PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)	Fast RAM type
Upgradable Storage	Yes vs Yes	Option to increase the Storage size
SSD Type	NVMe vs NVMe	Faster Data Transfers
Wi-Fi Standard	v6 vs v6E	Fast and Reliable Wi-Fi Connections
Bluetooth Standard	v5.1 vs v5.1	Fast and Reliable Bluetooth Connections
HDMI Output	1x HDMI 2.0 vs 1x HDMI 2.0	Connect to External Displays via HDMI cable
VGA Output	No vs No	Connect to External Displays via VGA cable
Numeric Pad	Yes vs Yes	Fast way to input numbers
Keyboard Backlight	Yes vs Yes	Easily see the keys under low light

Common Weaknesses of LG Gram 17 2022 and MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000

Touchscreen Capability	No vs No	No Touchscreen Capability

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022: Physical Specs Comparison

In this section, we will be comparing the physical specifications and body features of the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and the LG Gram 17 2022.

Physical Specs
Weight	2.24 kg (4.94 lbs)	1.35 kg (2.98 lbs)
Surface Area	1032 cm2 (160.1 inches2)	980 cm2 (151.9 inches2)
Screen to Surface Ratio	~79.9%	~85.5%
Side Bezel Thickness	~7 mm	~6.3 mm
Weight per Inch of Screen	0.13 kg/inch	0.08 kg/inch
	0.286 lbs/inch	0.176 lbs/inch
Colors	Black	Gray

Comparison of the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and the LG Gram 17 2022 External Dimensions

Weight

Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 weighs 2.24 kg (4.94 lbs), whereas the Gram 17 2022 weighs 1.35 kg (2.98 lbs). There is a notable difference in weight between these two laptops. However, it's important to consider that comparing their weights directly may not provide a complete picture since they also have different display sizes.

Weight Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 2.24 kg

LG Gram 17 2022 1.35 kg

Min 1.29 kg

Average 2.74 kg

Max 4.23 kg

Thickness Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 23.00 mm

LG Gram 17 2022 17.70 mm

Min 8.60 mm

Average 24.26 mm

Max 38.00 mm

Another value that we use for comparing the weights of the laptops is the Weight per Inch of Screen, which is calculated by dividing the total weight of the model with its usable diagonal screen size. This value for the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 is 0.13 kg/inch.In comparison, this value for the LG Gram 17 2022 is 0.08 kg/inch.Here are some of the best performing laptops in this area:

Microsoft Surface Go 4: 0.05 kg/inch
LG Gram SuperSlim 15.6 2023: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus ProArt PZ13 HT5306: 0.06 kg/inch
Asus Zenbook A14 UX3407: 0.06 kg/inch
Dell Latitude 7330: 0.07 kg/inch
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Nano Gen 2: 0.07 kg/inch
LG Gram 14 2022: 0.07 kg/inch
LG Gram 14 2-in-1 2022: 0.07 kg/inch

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022: Internals (CPU, GPU, RAM, Battery, SSD, etc.) Comparison

CPU Comparison

CPU Model	AMD Ryzen 7 4800H	Intel Core i5 1240P Intel Core i7 1260P
Base Frequency	2.9 GHz	1.7 GHz
Turbo Frequency	4.2 GHz	4.4 GHz
Number of Cores	8	12
Number of Threads	16	16
L3 Cache	8 MB	12 MB
Integrated GPU	Radeon Vega 7	Intel Iris Xe Graphics (80EU)
CPU Fabrication Process	7 nm	10 nm
Geekbench 5 (Single)	1198	1593
Geekbench 5 (Multi)	7176	7956
Cinebench 23 (Single)	1255	1516
Cinebench 23 (Multi)	11236	9305

Above you can see the CPU options and the CineBench and GeekBench test scores for both laptops, which gives an idea about what kind of performance difference you may experience between the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and LG Gram 17 2022.

You may also read reviews of latest laptops with the same CPUs and compare them:

Laptops with: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H

Laptops with: Intel Core i5 1240P

GPU Comparison

GPU Model	Radeon RX 5500M 4GB	Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 (80EU)
Base Clock Frequency	1375 MHz	300 MHz
Boost CLock Frequency	1645 MHz	1100 MHz
TGP (Total Graphics Power)	50 W	15 W
Type	Dedicated	Integrated
FLOPS	4.632 TFLOPS	1,408 GFLOPS
Memory Size	4 GB	System Shared
Memory Type	GDDR6	System Shared
Memory Bus	128 bit	System Shared
Memory Speed	~14 Gbps	System Shared
Shading Units Cores	1408	640
TMUs	88	40
ROPs	32	20

GPU is as critical as the CPU for graphic heavy applications and the table above gives a picture of how the two GPU compares. FLOPS is a measure of a GPU's performance based on the number of floating-point arithmetic calculations that the processor can perform within a second. MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has a FLOPS value of 4.632 TFLOPS whereas the LG Gram 17 2022 ' has a FLOPS value of 1.41 TFLOPS. If graphical performance of the laptop is important for your use type, the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 may be the better choice between these two setups.

RAM Comparison

RAM	8GB 16GB 32GB 64GB	8GB 16GB 32GB
Memory Bus	1x8 GB	2x4 GB
RAM Clock	3200 MHz	5200 MHz
RAM Type	DDR4	LPDDR5
Upgradable	Yes	No
Max RAM Size	64 GB
Total Slots	2
Memory Bus	PCI-E Gen 3.0 (4x)	PCI-E Gen 4.0 (4x)

Both laptops, the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and the Gram 17 2022, come with similar RAM capacities of 8 GB, providing comparable performance in memory-intensive tasks.

LOCAL LLM Compatibility Evaluation

This quick guide shows what types of large language models (LLMs) each of these laptops could support, based on their respective hardware specifications. It's meant to help you compare their suitability for running AI models locally.

LLM Category	MSI Bravo 17 2021 (Ryzen 5000)	LG Gram 17 (2022)
Small Models(1-3B):Examples: Phi-2, Qwen-1.8B	✔ Run smoothly.	✔ Run smoothly.
Medium Models(7-8B):Examples: Mistral-7B, Qwen-7B	✖ Not supported.	✖ Not supported.
Large Models(13-30B):Examples: Mixtral, Qwen-14B	✖ Not supported.	✖ Not supported.
Extra-Large Models(65B+):Examples: LLaMA2-70B, Qwen1.5-72B	✖ Not supported on most systems. Requires high-end GPU or advanced setup.	✖ Not supported on most systems. Requires high-end GPU or advanced setup.

Note: Optimized (e.g., 4-bit) models may run on limited hardware. Performance depends on runtime and setup.

📌 MoE Models: Some models like Mixtral 8x7B and Qwen3-30B-A3B use a Mixture of Experts (MoE) design, activating only part of the model during inference. This means they can often run efficiently on laptops with 12–16 GB of VRAM when quantized.

BATTERY

BATTERY	51 Wh	80 Wh 90 Wh
Battery Type	Li-Ion	Li-Ion
Replaceable	No	No
Fast Charging	Yes	No
USB Power Delivery	No	Yes
Charging Port Position	Left	Left
Charge Power	180 W	65 W
AC Adapter Weight	590 gramm	286 gramm

On the other hand, the Gram 17 2022 features a higher battery capacity of 80 Wh, delivering longer usage time compared to the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000's 51 Wh.

Battery Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 51 Wh

LG Gram 17 2022 80 Wh

Min 37.00 Wh

Average 76.88 Wh

Max 100.00 Wh

STORAGE
The Gram 17 2022 offers a larger max storage capacity of 2 TB, providing more room for storing files and data compared to the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000's storage capacity of 1 TB.

Storage Options	256 GB, 512 GB, 1 TB	512 GB, 1 TB, 2 TB
Upgradable	Yes	Yes
Total Slots	2	2
Storage type	SSD (M2)	SSD (M2)
NVMe	Yes	Yes

If your budget allows, we recommend opting for the largest possible disk size, considering the potential increase in storage capacity needs in the future. However, please keep in mind the question 'What will the laptop be used for?' when making this decision. Of course, you can later upgrade the hard disk capacity by getting a larger disk. However, if your laptop has only one disk slot, it may not be as straightforward as a RAM upgrade, where you simply add or replace a module, as moving or cloning files to a new disk may be necessary.

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022: Display Comparison

The display is an essential aspect to consider when comparing the MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and LG Gram 17 2022 since its is the component that you interact the most and significantly impact the experience.

Screen Area and Dimensions

Now let's look at the comparison of the actual display areas of both laptops below, keeping the bezels around the screens out of the equation. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has a display size of 17.3".On the other hand, Gram 17 2022 has a smaller 17.0" display.The total usable screen area of the Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 is 825cm² / 128inch² whereas the Gram 17 2022's total usable screen area is 838cm² / 130inch².

PPI (Pixels per Inch)
Additionally, the Gram 17 2022 features a higher pixel density with 178 pixels per inch (PPI), ensuring sharper image details.

Screen PPI (Pixels Per Inch) Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 127 ppi

LG Gram 17 2022 178 ppi

Min 106 PPI

Average 141 PPI

Max 266.00 PPI

Refresh Rate
The Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 offers a higher refresh rate of 120 Hz, resulting in smoother motion and improved visual experience.

Furthermore, the Gram 17 2022 boasts a faster response time of 32.0 ms, reducing motion blur for fast-paced content.

Brightness
The Gram 17 2022 offers a higher maximum brightness of 350 nits, delivering a brighter screen.

Brightness Comparison

Displays size larger than 17.0 inches

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 260 nits

LG Gram 17 2022 350 nits

Min

200 nits

Average 368 nits

Max 1200.00 nits

MSI Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 vs LG Gram 17 2022 Connectivity Comparison

In terms of connectivity,

Wifi
Gram 17 2022 features a more advanced Wi-Fi standard v6E, providing faster and more reliable wireless connections compared to Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 (v6).

Below, you'll find a Wi-Fi Versions Table, along with their release dates and speeds, to provide a brief overview of its development.

Wi-Fi Versions and Speeds

Standard	Speed	Release Date	Network	Frequency Bands (GHz)
Wi-Fi 7	up to 40 Gbps (5 GB/s)	2023	802.11be	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6E	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2020	802.11ax	2.4, 5, 6
Wi-Fi 6	up to 9.6 Gbps (1.2 GB/s)	2019	802.11ax	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 5	up to 6.93 Gbps (866.25 MB/s)	2014	802.11ac	2.4, 5
Wi-Fi 4	up to 600 Mbps (75 MB/s)	2009	802.11n	2.4, 5

* Please note that the provided transfer rates are maximum theoretical values, and real-life performance may vary based on environmental factors.

USB
Both Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022 have USB-A ports. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has 3x USB 3.2 USB-A ports, while Gram 17 2022 has 2x USB 3.2 USB-A ports.
Both Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022 have USB Type-C ports. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 has 2x USB 3.2 USB Type-C ports, while Gram 17 2022 has 2x USB 4.0 USB Type-C ports.

Below, you'll find a table of USB ports, along with their release dates and speeds.
To mitigate the confusion caused by generation names, the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) suggests using marketing names like USB 5Gbps, USB 10Gbps, and so forth, based on their respective transfer rates.

USB Type and Speeds

USB Type	Version	Speed	Date	Other Features/Explanations
USB4	Gen 4 (2.0)	80 Gbps	2022	Also known as USB 80Gbps
USB4	Gen 3×2	40 Gbps	2019	Also known as USB 40Gbps
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2x2	20 Gbps	2019	Double the data transfer rates of Gen 2
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.1
USB 3.2	3.2 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2017	Previously known as USB 3.0
USB 3.1	3.1 Gen 2	10 Gbps	2013	Faster data transfer rates
USB 3.0	3.1 Gen 1	5 Gbps	2010	SuperSpeed USB, improved data transfer rates
USB 2.0	2.0	480 Mbps	2000	High-speed data transfer
USB 1.0	1.0	1.5 Mbps	1996	Original USB standard

Thunderbolt
Gram 17 2022 is equipped with Thunderbolt 4 port. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 does not have Thunderbolt port.

HDMI
Both Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022 feature an HDMI port (1x HDMI 2.0) for connecting to external monitors.

Below, you'll find a comparison table detailing different HDMI versions, including their bandwidth, color depth, maximum resolution, and release dates. This information can be helpful in understanding the capabilities of each HDMI version and choosing the most suitable one for your needs.

HDMI Comparison Table

HDMI Version	Maximum Resolution	Bandwidth (Gbps)	Color Depth (bits)	Release Date
HDMI 2.1-2.1b	7680 x 4320 *(8K)* @ 60p 3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 120p	48.0	48	2017
HDMI 2.0-2.0b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 60p	18.0	48	2013
HDMI 1.4-1.4b	3840 x 2160 *(4K)* @ 30p	10.2	48	2009
HDMI 1.3-1.3a	2560 x 1440 @ 60p	10.2	48	2006
HDMI 1.0-1.2a	1920 x 1200 @ 60p	4.95	24	2002

* Please note that the provided resolution values represent the maximum supported resolution, and actual display quality may depend on other factors such as source content and connected devices.

SD Card Reader
Gram 17 2022 is equipped with an SD Card Reader for easy access to memory cards. Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 does not have an SD Card Reader.

Audio Jack
Both Bravo 17 2021 Ryzen 5000 and Gram 17 2022 are equipped with a 3.5mm Audio Jack, providing seamless connection to headphones and speakers.

To summarize the connectivity and ports details, please refer to the table below to see them listed.

Connectivity and Ports
WiFi Standard (latest: v7)	v6	v6E
Bluetooth (latest: v5.4)	v5.1	v5.1
USB-A (latest: 3.2)	3x USB 3.2	2x USB 3.2
USB Type-C (latest: USB4 2.0)	2x USB 3.2	2x USB 4.0
Thunderbolt (latest: 4)	No	Thunderbolt 4
HDMI (latest: 2.1)	1x HDMI 2.0	1x HDMI 2.0
Display Port (latest: v2.0)	No	No
VGA	No	No
Fingerprint Sensor	No	Yes
Optical Drive	No	No
Audio Jack 3.5mm	Yes	Yes
Ethernet RJ45	Yes	No
SD CardReader	No	Yes
Proprietary Charging Port	Yes	No